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    Is "good rock music" dead?

    Yesterday when I was at Rockstar Mayhem, one of the guys announced that these bands that hadn't released an album in 20 years were going to concerts and outselling bands that are making good music.

    So the question is: Is good rock music dead? I'd say no. It's changing but not in the way most people think. Let's look at these bands. A lot of them were very talented (the Scorpions, Judas Priest, etc.) but when rock was in the mainstream more than it was, there was practically no access to foreign music unless you had an import store and a very fat bank account. The reality is that over 95% of people didn't have access to anything and the songs were so beat into our system by DJ's and the RIAA that we now "have to love these songs" or else somehow you don't like rock.

    When the '90s came about, you had some acts that tried to return to the gutsier side of rock like Pantera and Helmet, but you also had bands with attitude like Alice In Chains and White Zombie. But they were given a different moniker. Hair metal had died out and the moniker was "grunge". A lot of these bands though had roots in metal and the bands that survived after grunge died in the mid 1990s were rock or hard rock in format.

    In the early 2000s, bands like Godsmack and Disturbed were given the moniker of "nu-metal" even though they really were hard rock bands. Bands like Sevendust and Killswitch Engage were given monikers like "Metalcore", but they were really hard rock or heavy metal.

    Now you got so many genres for metal and rock that it's difficult and confusing to try to keep up with all of them. In addition, many metalheads snub bands that are too commercial for the exact reason I stated. Even if the bands have metal in their names, a lot of metalheads dismiss them. A lot of people in metal have gone as far as to create dozens of sub-genres. Many of these people become "Genre Nazis" that if you don't get the exact genre that the song is, you don't know your music. Most people don't want to spend their entire lives being a human encyclopedia of genres when they'd rather just listen to something good. And this doesn't happen with most other styles of music.

    But something else has happened to music in general. The accessibility of the internet and sites like YouTube, allow people who are willing to experiment the ability to listen to music from all over the world. Yet most people won't take a chance and experiment to find good new bands, sticking instead to the technology of decades past and listening to the radio. I often wonder why this is. I don't know why people are stupid enough to think that because a record company E-mailed an MP3 for a radio station to play 5,000,000 times that it's instantly a good song.

    I've held for years that good music can be found in every era. Now you just have to dig through a pile of crap to find it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewNeko View Post
    I've held for years that good music can be found in every era. Now you just have to dig through a pile of crap to find it.
    This.

    I agree 100%. That's why I don't bother with stations who play new rock. While there is good new music out there, I'm about sixty times more likely to hear something enjoyable on a classic rock station. Ain't no beatin' Led Zeppelin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whammy850 View Post
    This.

    I agree 100%. That's why I don't bother with stations who play new rock. While there is good new music out there, I'm about sixty times more likely to hear something enjoyable on a classic rock station. Ain't no beatin' Led Zeppelin.
    In a way, I agree, but you also have to realize something about classic rock stations.

    If you look at a playlist for a classic rock station, they have a playlist that spans 30 or more years and plays 300 songs. They literally "cherry pick" what songs they want to pick. I'd argue that 95% of music was B.S. in every era. Most contemporary stations only play songs that are played over the last six months, so you're gonna find really crappy music on stations today.


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    While the "new" rock music is something I despise greatly (though some current pop I do enjoy), I gotta love my 97.5 K-ROCK for my classic rock fix.

    I will tell you that a very popular rock band performed in Newfoundland this past weekend, at the Salmon Festival in Grand Falls-Windsor - the rock band KISS performed their biggest hits last Saturday night. Oddly enough, while KISS was performing in Central Newfoundland, there was heavy rain and strong winds happening in my hometown. It sounds like the concert ended just in time before the bad weather to finally hit Grand Falls-Windsor. I even heard that Electric Light Orchestra performed that night as well, but without Jeff Lynne as the band's lead singer. E.L.O. is just plain dull without Jeff Lynne. But at least the main members of KISS did perform, and that concert had rave reviews for sure!

    And btw, in honor of KISS performing in Newfoundland last Saturday, I changed my Wayne Brady avatar to one devoted to KISS. They were a great rock band indeed.

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    I was spoiled, because there was a station I listened to in Ohio that played an AOR format, and they went heavy on the album tracks. There was a similar station in Chicago, when I lived there. Nowadays, I get my fix on internet radio, where they play more than the same 30 songs in rotation. And I customize it, so I can listen to my favorites. (Lots of Beatles!!!)


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    I'm lucky to live where I do. I'm an hour away from Birmingham, AL, which has 2 classic rock stations. Those two plus the local one here in Gadsden gives me so many options. Often times, one or two of them will have commercials or a song I don't care for, and I can just turn on the one that's left and usually find something decent there. On a really good day I'll hear an awesome song or an odd obscurity I enjoy 2 or more times a day.

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    There's good rock music, but it's been so watered down by the different styles and types of rock.

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    And 32 years ago today, disco started to fizzle out as we were then heading into the 1980s. But still, classic rock is the best rock around.

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