Tokens are a bad idea

[curvyqt123]

Okay, can someone tell me what is up with this new casino-token thing that GSN is doing? You can't redeem them for cash or prizes, so what is the use? We all should bombard GSN with emails, maybe they will drop the token crap. Oh, and another thing, is GSN still offering the weekly win it tournaments?

[momochi7]

i like the idea, but come on, i like playing slots for fun not run out of tokens and can not play anymore unless i buy them, sad face

[GSNAngel]

You know, Brendy. I don't even as much as have a problem with that but now it's hard as hell to turn a profit in DoND. I played a game literally this morning and the token amounts were way too low. Betting 1,000 tokens and having the best offer of the night being 573... in fact, as it turns out, you only have five winning numbers at the 1,000 token level -- 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 5,000, and 10,000. That means your odds are roughly 80% on losing tokens, 4% on breaking even, 4% on doubling your win, 4% on tripling, 4% on x5 and 4% on x10.

Let's look at the prize structure using the lowest amount possible to play.

(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 75, 100, 200, 300, 500, 1000)

That totals a win of 2511 tokens while spending 2600 given an unweighted average. So basically, it's a losing game. You're losing about 3.5% every time you play. In addition, because of the very skewed pay table, you have no real shot of winning anything unless you hit one of the top three amounts. Most of these games are losing propositions. And even if you do win, what are you going to do with a freakin' token?

I'm glad you're still keeping the oodle program, in fact, to be honest, I think the top prize should be halved on "oodle leaderboard" games because this will keep people from exploiting glitches to earn 500 oodles a day on Diner Dash, but tokens aren't worth anything. I have over 22 million collecting dust on Pogo and all it stands is as a tribute to the level of gaming that I've done so far.

Thank you for the feedback. I've passed this along (as well as the whole thread)

I will not spend money to play games where I can't win anything back. I'm tempted to find the sponsors' email addresses and let them know the effect on me and others; and warn them that it might affect how many people see their adds on GSN. It had a negative effect on me and I want GSN to have a negative effect too!

You don't have to buy Tokens. The Casino Games are for those who want to try out a new venue. We’ve started everyone off with 12,500 tokens for the launch of Casino. On top of that, each day you log in we’ll give you a spin on our Token Spinner, where you can win anywhere from 500 to thousands of tokens. Log in multiple days in a row and you’ll get more spins! Feel free to lower your bets if you want your tokens to last longer, but if you run out just wait until the next day's spin.

Okay, can someone tell me what is up with this new casino-token thing that GSN is doing? You can't redeem them for cash or prizes, so what is the use? We all should bombard GSN with emails, maybe they will drop the token crap. Oh, and another thing, is GSN still offering the weekly win it tournaments?

Tokens function as chips in GSN's Casino Games. They can be won and lost, but can’t be redeemed for merchandise or cash. Even though our new virtual casino games are just as fun as the real deal, they're just for fun (and lots of it). If Tokens could be exchanged for cash or prizes, those games would be considered gambling, and we'd have to remove them from the site.

We've left the Oodle experience untouched, so that you can still take home tons of GSN goodies. Oodles are our redeemable rewards, which players earn by playing games and completing promotions. They can be exchanged for gifts in the Prize Center.

[debrakrs88]

i spent the day with gsn's new promo's,etc.,i think it's time to move on to another website. i loved the way it was. they should have added new things instead of taking away.

[jskeet28]

This is a stupid idea to add tokens that do nothing. I have worked hard to get my oodles total to where it is and now you have just ruined this for me. I will be spending alot less time on gsn and that means less ads I will be seeing. I would think that would be bad for advertising on gsn.

[FireFtr151]

Another bend over and...change that "we the players love", just like auctions. Reality is escaping this site.

[BadBill33]

TOKENS ARE A WASTE OF TIME!!!! (Yes, I know am am shouting)

[babygrandma]

This token thing sucks!!!!!!!!!!! I am sooooooo out of here!

[teragf]

I like the new tiki casino game. It was ok to pay money to enter the cash games on WorldWinner, but it does not make any sense to purchase tokens only to play the casino games. To me, it makes more sense to have the option of adding tokens using oodles. There is no way that I will purchase tokens just to play those games, especially not double trouble or deal or no deal.

[marta3612]

I am so confused by all the changes. Why change a good thing for a bad one? So few oddles to earn and now there are tokens. I don't gamble and I will have to find some place besides GSN to spend my time. So SAD.

[faybills]

Tokens Not Good!!!!!!!!

[ceal784]

love to play slots but when i only have so many tokens to play with i am disappointed. used up all my tokens on the first game i played so now i have nothing more to play. used to spend a hour playing undersea slots before i went to bed now i no longer can. guess i will just go to bed.

[lgh1953]

I agree. Why should I pay for tokens just to play the games. I will go back to Iwon.com where you can play and actually win many tokens and use them for entries in sweepstakes and for prizes. Iwon has better games and a lot more of them.

[phimat37]

I've tried out the online Casino. Alls I can say is I enjoy the games, The fact of earning tokens for them is okay but, tokens are really worth nothing. GSN killed off Double Oodles day. I say Double Oodles day is better then some Double Tokens day. GSN may lose alot of fans.

[labmom12]

You have taken away so many of our ways to win oodles. The new format stinks also. I have to remove all my toolbars just to play games, and can't even see to play the spin games from the wonder wheel. We used to get 4 bonus trivia's at 100 each, and now we get 6 that only total 375, and if you don't get on every couple of hours, you don't get the chance to answer them. We used to have 12 hours before the previous one disappeared. I will not buy tokens, and since getting oodles is harder to do, I may be another person that heads for a different place to play. I can deal with the ads, but will not pay.