GSN Ratings - Part 4

[Lingofan97]

Mon 181 - Million Dollar Monday is the usual OHIM for GSN
Tue 247 - Sherri doesn't do so swell
Wed 264 - Jerry at least does a little better than Sherri
Thu 331 - Howie again delivers despite turkey dinners
Fri 295 - Good showing for the retro shows on not-so-Black Friday
Sat 297 - Usual solid performance from stalwarts Karn and O'Hurley
Sun 351 - 5th Grader shines again

Sherri and Jerry didn't do that bad considering it's a five hour marathon. The Newlywed Game and Baggage have both been doing well at 6 and 6:30.

November 14-18. 6PM Newlywed Game average:265K, 6:30PM Baggage average: 313K
November 21-23 6PM Newlywed Game average:288K, 6:30PM Baggage average: 308k
So I really don't think Sherri and Jerry are doing that bad. The marathons are just overkill right now.

In response to a couple other people, GSN shouldn't stop production of The Newlywed Game, Baggage and Lingo. (I think Catch 21 is a goner) They should have enough money considering Baggage and The Newlywed Game aren't too cost consuming, but they probably give a lot of money to Sherri and Jerry.

Plus, I really hope GSN doesn't flood the schedule with Card Sharks, 25K and 100K Pyramid. They will see that they are doing well in ratings, I hope it just doesn't go into overkill.

[pzimm7778]

Sherri and Jerry didn't do that bad considering it's a five hour marathon. The Newlywed Game and Baggage have both been doing well at 6 and 6:30.

In response to a couple other people, GSN shouldn't stop production of The Newlywed Game, Baggage and Lingo. (I think Catch 21 is a goner) They should have enough money considering Baggage and The Newlywed Game aren't too cost consuming, but they probably give a lot of money to Sherri and Jerry.

Plus, I really hope GSN doesn't flood the schedule with Card Sharks, 25K and 100K Pyramid. They will see that they are doing well in ratings, I hope it just doesn't go into overkill.

I can't imagine them doing that. If they ever go back to a non-block nightly schedule they could possibly do a 25K/100K Pyramid hour but I doubt they would even do that.

[Playmaniac001]

Million Dollar Monday is really doing awful, which I am sort of surprised about. I figured they would at least break 200,000. 1 vs 100 got 30,000 more viewers at 1AM on a Sunday night than it did in primetime on Monday. Same goes for the other shows where they perform much better on Weekend afternoon slots than primetime slots.

Woolery Lingo had another better week, with a 217,000 average for the noon hour Mon-Wed. Much better than previous weeks where it was barely breaking 100,000.

Snydie DoND at 2:30PM did a little better, almost getting a 200k average for the 3 days (Monday's 127,000 is to blame for that) but the Tues/Wed airings were well over 200,000 and therefor the 3PM hour did better again this week.

Glad to see flashback Fridays doing so great. Even Match Game and Dawson Feud showed up this week. Interestingly enough, GSN asked on Facebook a few days ago about which show they would like to see revived. Maybe they are noticing the nice numbers for Flashback Friday, and are considering a revival?

[phimat37]

(I think Catch 21 is a goner)

I don't think a marathon of Catch 21 would hurt considering it's only on at 2pm ET. Could be a good way to test out the show again but in a marathon. It's more better than overkill The Newlywed Game and Baggage but I think the worst is Deal or No Deal. I want that to go badly. Maybe Catch 21 could go on Thursdays and replace Deal or No Deal. I do not like Deal or No Deal now because it is overkill even if it is like 4 seasons GSN has. I think its past its prime on this network. I've said it before, I'll say it again.

[CaseyAbell]

So movement down is exciting?

Oh jeeze, it was just a little irony. Everything else was flat, but at least Family Feud was slightly different. So the news wasn't completely blah.

So far this season Family Feud is actually performing very well, with average viewership up over four million most weeks. I'm sure GSN would like to get Harvey Feud.

Where do WOF and Jeopardy rank in terms of longest continuous running programs of all time?

They're getting up there. Especially Wheel, which has now been on continuously, in one form or the other, since 1975. But Meet the Press has both of them beaten by a mile. From the Wikipedia article (usual caveats): "It [Meet the Press] is the longest-running television series in American broadcasting history, despite bearing little resemblance to the original format of the program seen in its television debut on November 6, 1947."

If Retro Fridays do a 295 and Karn/O'H Saturdays do a 297, why is one just good and the other solid?...It was probably just a different use of words. I don't think he was trying to talk down or play up one over the other.

Of course, I was just using different phrasing. The complaint is groundless.

So I really don't think Sherri and Jerry are doing that bad.

I agree they're not doing terrible by GSN standards. The real soft spot is Monday, but that day has been a problem for GSN for quite a while now. Million Dollar Password and Power of 10 perform a lot better on Saturday afternoon than on Monday night. Weird.

Even Match Game and Dawson Feud showed up this week.

Dawson dropped a lot of the Card Sharks lead-in, from 357K down to 252K. Again, not a terrible number by GSN standards, but I would put 100K Pyramid at 10:00PM. I think it would hold Card Sharks' lead-in better.

Crossposted to the blog with screenshots of Harvey Feud and 100K Pyramid.

[Playmaniac001]

I don't think a marathon of Catch 21 would hurt considering it's only on at 2pm ET. Could be a good way to test out the show again but in a marathon. It's more better than overkill The Newlywed Game and Baggage but I think the worst is Deal or No Deal. I want that to go badly. Maybe Catch 21 could go on Thursdays and replace Deal or No Deal. I do not like Deal or No Deal now because it is overkill even if it is like 4 seasons GSN has. I think its past its prime on this network. I've said it before, I'll say it again.

I dislike Deal or No Deal also, but it still does good for the network so I think we're stuck with it for a little while longer. On the flip side - Million Dollar Mondays are doing awful, and they may decide to switch that night up completely. Maybe they'll give Catch 21 a chance there. They could even show hours of different shows on Monday night, like an hour of Whammy, Lingo, Chain Reaction, Inaba's 1 vs 100, and Syndie DoND. If they end up cancelling Million Dollar Mondays, I certainly hope they don't give it to DoND, Baggage, or Newlywed since they already have a night.

[pzimm7778]

Oh jeeze, it was just a little irony. Everything else was flat, but at least Family Feud was slightly different. The news wasn't completely blah. So far this season Family Feud is actually performing very well, with average viewership up over four million most weeks. I'm sure GSN would like to get Harvey Feud.

They're getting up there. Especially Wheel, which has now been on continuously, in one form or the other, since 1975. But Meet the Press has both of them beaten by a mile. From the Wikipedia article (usual caveats): "It [Meet the Press] is the longest-running television series in American broadcasting history, despite bearing little resemblance to the original format of the program seen in its television debut on November 6, 1947."

Of course, it was just different phrasing. The complaint is groundless.

I agree they're not doing terrible by GSN standards. The real soft spot is Monday, but that day has been a problem for GSN for quite a while now. Million Dollar Password and Power of 10 perform a lot better on Saturday afternoon than on Monday night. Weird.

Dawson dropped a lot of the Card Sharks lead-in, from 357K down to 252K. Again, not a terrible number by GSN standards, but I would put 100K Pyramid at 10:00PM. I think it would hold Card Sharks' lead-in better.

Actually I was being sarcastic over the first statement. I assume 60 Minutes surpasses WOF as well.

[starwheel]

Actually I was being sarcastic over the first statement. I assume 60 Minutes surpasses WOF as well.

As do the other two of NBC's institutions...the Today show (1952), and the Tonight show (1954).

[Lingofan97]

I dislike Deal or No Deal also, but it still does good for the network so I think we're stuck with it for a little while longer. On the flip side - Million Dollar Mondays are doing awful, and they may decide to switch that night up completely. Maybe they'll give Catch 21 a chance there. They could even show hours of different shows on Monday night, like an hour of Whammy, Lingo, Chain Reaction, Inaba's 1 vs 100, and Syndie DoND. If they end up cancelling Million Dollar Mondays, I certainly hope they don't give it to DoND, Baggage, or Newlywed since they already have a night.

I would watch a marathon of Catch 21, but I just don't think the show has a big potential right now. I think they should concentrate more on new episodes of Lingo. If Million Dollar Monday gets cancelled, I think your idea of Whammy, Lingo and Chain Reaction isn't a bad idea. But we also have to figure out where they are going to put Dancing with the Stars. It can't go in Monday or Tuesday nights since that's when new episodes premiere. If Million Dollar Monday gets cancelled, (those shows do better on the weekend anyway). Monday night would be a good idea for an hour of Whammy at 7, Woolery Lingo at 8, Chain Reaction at 9, Engvall Lingo at 10, and Catch 21 at 11. Tuesday and Wednesday nights should still be "dedicated" to Sherri and Jerry, Thursday nights could be Dancing with The Stars, Friday nights should still be classics. Weekend nights stay the same too.

Also, GSN already gave Catch 21 a second chance with rerun episodes in October for two weeks in primetime at 7:30, and rating were pretty low.

[Playmaniac001]

I would watch a marathon of Catch 21, but I just don't think the show has a big potential right now. I think they should concentrate more on new episodes of Lingo. If Million Dollar Monday gets cancelled, I think your idea of Whammy, Lingo and Chain Reaction isn't a bad idea. But we also have to figure out where they are going to put Dancing with the Stars. It can't go in Monday or Tuesday nights since that's when new episodes premiere. If Million Dollar Monday gets cancelled, (those shows do better on the weekend anyway). Monday night would be a good idea for an hour of Whammy at 7, Woolery Lingo at 8, Chain Reaction at 9, Engvall Lingo at 10, and Catch 21 at 11. Tuesday and Wednesday nights should still be "dedicated" to Sherri and Jerry, Thursday nights could be Dancing with The Stars, Friday nights should still be classics. Weekend nights stay the same too.

Also, GSN already gave Catch 21 a second chance with rerun episodes in October for two weeks in primetime at 7:30, and rating were pretty low.

I kinda forgot about Dancing. They may push 5th Grader up to Monday, and air dancing on Sunday nights. or put dancing on Thurs, and put DoND on Mondays.

I think they pretty much killed Catch 21 on purpose. The last season they started airing the new episodes at 5:30PM, then they moved them ahead to 4:30 if I recall, then back to 5PM. Then they quit showing it completely, without even showing all of the new episodes I think. They should have aired the new episodes after Newlywed & Baggage in the evenings, and had a rerun earlier than Midnight. Why the removed all of the weekend runs is beyond me. Alfonso did great on weekend mornings, and a few months ago he had a slot in the late afternoon that used to do better than the weekday slots. Everytime the Catch 21 fans started watching at a certain time, they would move it.

[xibit765]

Remember, it's not just the total viewers for primetime that counts. It's the demographic. If Karn gets 300k viewers, and 80k of them are target age, whereas if Card Sharks gets 350k viewers and 20k in target demo, it's not a lock that Card Sharks will get to stay in primetime. We don't know what the demos are. But these numbers for 25k Pyramid and Card Sharks are VERY encouraging nonetheless. For shows that shouldn't cost much, they could make a huge profit if they can get decent advertising pay for them.

[Lingofan97]

I kinda forgot about Dancing. They may push 5th Grader up to Monday, and air dancing on Sunday nights. or put dancing on Thurs, and put DoND on Mondays.

I think they pretty much killed Catch 21 on purpose. The last season they started airing the new episodes at 5:30PM, then they moved them ahead to 4:30 if I recall, then back to 5PM. Then they quit showing it completely, without even showing all of the new episodes I think. They should have aired the new episodes after Newlywed & Baggage in the evenings, and had a rerun earlier than Midnight. Why the removed all of the weekend runs is beyond me. Alfonso did great on weekend mornings, and a few months ago he had a slot in the late afternoon that used to do better than the weekday slots. Everytime the Catch 21 fans started watching at a certain time, they would move it.

I have a feeling GSN wanted Catch 21 to crash.I believe it currently has no weekend slots, and it did well 11:30am weekend mornings. They probably had to give a lot of money to Alfonso AND Mikki. The show really shouldn't have had budget problems considering it didn't give out a lot. Catch 21 did move from 5:30 to 4:30 then back to 5 for the new episodes and had a big break because they wanted to show Power of 10 to promote Improv-a-Ganza at 5PM. Catch 21 never should have left 7:30PM when it was there in 2008.

I almost felt like this was going to happen to the new Lingo, but that maintains weekend and midnight slots. They're only showing Lingo (Engvall) 7 times a week now since there were only 40 episodes. If GSN wanted to keep Catch 21, they would have kept more time slots.

Off subject from Catch 21, I keep wondering if we are ever get new episodes of Lingo, what time will the episodes go in? I don't think GSN would be stupid enough to air new episodes of Lingo at 5 or 5:30 where they would fail.

[pzimm7778]

Remember, it's not just the total viewers for primetime that counts. It's the demographic. If Karn gets 300k viewers, and 80k of them are target age, whereas if Card Sharks gets 350k viewers and 20k in target demo, it's not a lock that Card Sharks will get to stay in primetime. We don't know what the demos are. But these numbers for 25k Pyramid and Card Sharks are VERY encouraging nonetheless. For shows that shouldn't cost much, they could make a huge profit if they can get decent advertising pay for them.

A lot of it depends on what GSN is attempting to accomplish. If other prime time shows pull the target demos in and advertising dollars then they can put on a show like CS if they wanted to just look better for overall number ratings as long as it could continue to bring them in. An example is USA. The network makes a lot in advertising on reruns of NCIS, Law & Order, first runs like Psych. However, they also have wrestling (although i use that term loosely) on there. Wrestling doesn't get high dollar advertising because of its stigma and demo, however it brings in a rating that helps USA sell itself as a top 2 or 3 cable network which helps make its ad dollars from commercials on other shows more lucrative. Without wresting it probably couldn't say that.

[CaseyAbell]

Douglas has put up November 28-December 4. It's getting late and I don't want to analyze much. Overall prime time/total day averages were 324K/222K. Okay numbers, not spectacular.

It was a blowout week for 5th Grader. All six runs ended in the top eleven. Wouldn't you know, soon-to-depart Chain Reaction got an episode into the top ten. Guess GSN doesn't want viewers. The 7:00PM-12:00AM marathons for each day:

Mon 258K - Not great but definitely an improvement from recent weeks - no more competition from Dancing With the Stars?
Tue 312K - Solid for Sherri
Wed 257K - Okay for Jerry, could be better
Thu 250K - Ditto for Howie
Fri 239K - Dawson hurts the night (and particularly his lead-out 100K Pyramid) with his 181K - I'm tellin' ya, a lot of folks don't like Richard, no matter how much the older-is-better posters admire him
Sat 342K - As usual, Karn and O'Hurley deliver, no matter what these boards think of them - as if these boards have much in common with GSN's actual audience
Sun 456K - ZOWIE for Jeff and friends

[ChrisXtreme]

I'd waited years to see Richard back in primetime but wow, his numbers are pretty bad.