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  1. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyAbell View Post
    Fri 239K - Dawson hurts the night (and particularly his lead-out 100K Pyramid)
    Obviously Dawson is to blame for the low $100K Pyramid numbers; it wouldn't make sense that $25K Pyramid would perform quite well in the 8:00PM hour and then $100K Pyramid bomb just a couple hours later. IMO, Dawson needs to be taken away from the Friday night block completely, and they need to bring back something like Super Password that could pull numbers for the Friday night block. Card Sharks and $25K Pyramid do pretty well on Friday nights, and if there was a better show at 10:00 (like Super Password) to hold the lead-in for these two shows, then the 11:00 $100K Pyramid hour would do better as well, and the whole ratings picture would drastically be improved.

  2. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyAbell View Post
    Fri 239K - Dawson hurts the night (and particularly his lead-out 100K Pyramid) with his 181K - I'm tellin' ya, a lot of folks don't like Richard, no matter how much the older-is-better posters admire him
    A lot of folks don't like Richard Dawson probably because they get creeped out by his constant kissing of female contestants. I am one of those people who get turned off by Richard Dawson's practice. Where is Ray Combs when you need him the most?

    Makes me wonder what the viewership numbers will be like when the Christmas Day marathon of Dawson's Feud airs?

    Then again, it may be due to competition against a show that airs on one of the big three networks. Card Sharks and The $25,000 Pyramid probably do really well because of lack of competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by pyramidpower14 View Post
    Obviously Dawson is to blame for the low $100K Pyramid numbers
    That may change when Jim Perry becomes the newest lead-in come January.

  3. #78
    It'd be awesome having Combs Feud on the Friday Night block instead. I'm tired of seeing these 1980-81 episodes constantly.

  4. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharks8689 View Post
    That may change when Jim Perry becomes the newest lead-in come January.
    You mean, with some more Card Sharks?

  5. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by jhshifris View Post
    You mean, with some more Card Sharks?
    Uh, no. I mean Jim Perry's Card Sharks being the lead-in for The $100,000 Pyramid, the latter being a show that's not doing greatly on Friday nights.

    It's possible that The $100,000 Pyramid is not doing greatly on Friday nights due to competition from another show on one of the big 3 networks (ABC, CBS, or NBC).

    If the ratings for the Christmas Day marathon of Dawson's Feud are okay, then I can safely rule out the "everybody hates Richard Dawson" situation and I can safely bet that Dawson's Feud is doing not-so-great on Friday nights because of competition from other networks.

  6. #81
    Why is everybody hating on Richard Dawson, so everybody could go with Ray Combs? Look, he's a panelist on MG and the 1st host on FF, but teh original Feud is killling those network shows. Perhaps GSN should air FF they haven't seen in a long time, that's for sure.

  7. #82
    I also wouldn't mind seeing Ray's version again and it's a good example of what hasn't been on GSN lately.

  8. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by jhshifris View Post
    I also wouldn't mind seeing Ray's version again and it's a good example of what hasn't been on GSN lately.
    • The reality is, Ray Combs' Feud got low ratings during its last many months on the air. The ratings were far worse than any of the surviving classics that aired during 2009. Maybe Ray Combs' suicide creeped people out and turned viewers away from that version due to being a "bad reminder" of what happened in June 1996. Regardless of his cowardly taking the easy way out, I think he was a great host, and I would like to see that version back on GSN again as much as the next guy, but the odds are it ain't gonna happen.

    • The reality may be, Dawsons' Feud may be doing poorly because of competition against other networks, plus let us not forget that in the Pacific time zone, it airs at 6 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING! Nobody in that time zone is up that early in the day, it seems. Most of the morning viewership may be coming from viewers on the East Coast, most likely. It's not likely the kissing of female contestants on air (which can creep some viewers, like myself), but most likely either competition or airing in some time zones where people are still in bed, soon to wake up.

    Face it, Classic Family Feud, no matter what version, ends up not doing so great. If they could fit Dawson's Feud in a later time slot, that may work. Maybe that's something GSN should consider when they lose the rights to both of Dick Clark's Pyramid's. That, or bring back Eubanks' Card Sharks.

  9. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyAbell View Post
    Fri 239K - Dawson hurts the night (and particularly his lead-out 100K Pyramid) with his 181K - I'm tellin' ya, a lot of folks don't like Richard, no matter how much the older-is-better posters admire him
    Sat 342K - As usual, Karn and O'Hurley deliver, no matter what these boards think of them - as if these boards have much in common with GSN's actual audience
    Sun 456K - ZOWIE for Jeff and friends
    I had an ignore button for this poster, but I had to turn it off to see the ratings link...

    The statement about "GSN's actual audience" is another anti-classic fan attack. My point is why does this poster make comments like this? The people who like Classics are indeed watching Fridays. Yes, Dawson's numbers are pulling down the ratings. If you take out Dawson's ratings, the numbers are pretty much the same as Mon, , Wed and Thurs . Fridays have multiple shows and do as well as the other nights.
    You know, you could make the same point that if you just looked at the week's ratings, DOND and Jerry don't do much better than 30 year old shows. But we know that isn't true. Guess it's just how you twist the numbers to make people believe only posters on this board watch Classics.

    BTW, I would hope for GSN's sake that Sunday does 450's plus. They need it.

  10. #85
    That's the truth, competition from other shows is hurting Dawson's ratings but showing the same episodes over and over have alot to do w/ it as well, like this morning we saw Richard's birthday episode and it's gonna air once again in 2 weeks at 10pm. It'd be nice to see some of the Christmas episodes from the 70's episodes of Feud.

  11. #86
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    Averages for the week of November 28-December 2
    8AM Match Game- 82,000 (Lowest: 46K)
    8:30AM Match Game- 137,000
    9:00AM Family Feud- 145,000
    9:30AM Family Feud- 176,000
    10:00AM Card Sharks- 214,000
    10:30AM $25K Pyramid- 219,000
    11:00AM Match Game- 152,000
    11:30AM Match Game- 171,000
    Woolery Hour- 173,000
    1:00PM Deal or No Deal- 199,000
    2:00PM Catch 21- 194,000
    2:30PM Deal or No Deal- 163,000 (Did hit 276K on Thursday)
    3:00PM Whammy- 256,000 (tops 359K)
    3:30PM Chain Reaction- 292,000 (pretty unbelievable)
    Family Feud hour- 313,000
    5:00PM Deal or No Deal- 243,000 (an "impressive" 310K on Thursday, otherwise low 200's and upper 100's)
    6:00PM The Newlywed Game- 248,000 (not so good at all even for reruns)
    6:30PM Baggage- 274,000 (OK for reruns)
    Midnight Lingo (Engvall)- 198,000 (not good, not bad, better than improv still)

    Flashback Friday averages:
    Match Game- 228K
    25K Pyramid- 330K
    Card Sharks- 286K
    Feud (Dawson)- 181K
    100K Pyramid- 173K

  12. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharks8689 View Post
    [LIST][*]The reality is, Ray Combs' Feud got low ratings during its last many months on the air. The ratings were far worse than any of the surviving classics that aired during 2009. Maybe Ray Combs' suicide creeped people out and turned viewers away from that version due to being a "bad reminder" of what happened in June 1996. Regardless of his cowardly taking the easy way out
    I'm sorry, I almost forgot about that. How about Press Your Luck instead?

  13. #88
    I remember about a year ago when Match Game would do huge numbers after 11am, now look at the numbers after all the rerun abuse.

  14. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharks8689 View Post
    • The reality may be, Dawsons' Feud may be doing poorly because of competition against other networks, plus let us not forget that in the Pacific time zone, it airs at 6 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING! Nobody in that time zone is up that early in the day, it seems. Most of the morning viewership may be coming from viewers on the East Coast, most likely. It's not likely the kissing of female contestants on air (which can creep some viewers, like myself), but most likely either competition or airing in some time zones where people are still in bed, soon to wake up.
    The same can be said for the shows that air between 2AM and 4AM on the East Coast.

    It's no secret that I am not a Dawson's Feud fan. I do not like the kissing for one, and I also don't care for the generally slow pace of Dawson's Feud. I much prefer Richard Dawson on the panel of Match Game.

  15. #90
    Then again, it may be due to competition against a show that airs on one of the big three networks. Card Sharks and The $25,000 Pyramid probably do really well because of lack of competition.
    The competition from the broadcast networks is very soft on Friday. Only one network show on the latest Friday got more than ten million viewers, and that one just barely. There are plenty of viewers available all Friday night for the cable nets.

    The only real effect from the broadcast networks may have happened on Monday and Tuesday, when Dancing With the Stars hammered GSN right in the demos. This was the first week with no Dancing, and Monday and Tuesday prime time did noticeably better for GSN than during previous weeks. Which also possibly indicates that Dancing will be right up GSN's demo alley when the reruns start on the network in January.

    Face it, Classic Family Feud, no matter what version, ends up not doing so great. If they could fit Dawson's Feud in a later time slot, that may work.
    Dawson Feud doesn't work very well in prime time, with plenty of promotion for the retro shows and a good lead-in from Pyramid and Card Sharks. Don't know why it would work that great anywhere.

    8AM Match Game- 82,000 (Lowest: 46K)
    8:30AM Match Game- 137,000
    9:00AM Family Feud- 145,000
    9:30AM Family Feud- 176,000
    10:00AM Card Sharks- 214,000
    10:30AM $25K Pyramid- 219,000
    11:00AM Match Game- 152,000
    11:30AM Match Game- 171,000
    Woolery Hour- 173,000
    1:00PM Deal or No Deal- 199,000
    2:00PM Catch 21- 194,000
    2:30PM Deal or No Deal- 163,000 (Did hit 276K on Thursday)
    Weekdays before 3:00PM are really forgettable for GSN. That's a big reason the total day averages are sagging around 200K for weekdays. Sorry to repeat the suggestion, but very recent Wheel of Fortune somewhere in daytime couldn't hurt. Come on, Sony, give GSN a little help. Meanwhile, GSN is getting rid of Chain Reaction, one of the shows that perk things up after 3:00PM. Shrewd programming decision.

    The prime time/total day averages for each day:

    Mon 264K/206K
    Tue 361K/213K
    Wed 278K/204K
    Thu 282K/220K
    Fri 265K/198K
    Sat 388K/241K
    Sun 433K/279K

    GSN can thank Messrs. Foxworthy, Karn and O'Hurley for the relatively good performance on weekends vs. weekdays. Sherri also produced a good prime time number on Tuesday.

    Crossposted to the blog with screenshots of Dawson Feud and Chain Reaction.

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