April 9-15, 2012 Ratings

[Xavier1989]

http://sonofthebronx.blogspot.com/20...9-15-2012.html

5th Grader and Harvey Feud both took the top two spots with over 500,000 viewers.

[CyborgExMach1na]

Harvey Feud not exactly pulling the kind of numbers I imagined but still alright. Jeopardy at 9AM weekends needs to go.

[phimat37]

Family Feud (Harvey) may be good on Wednesdays but I can't help but notice, other versions are getting 200K when they used to get 400K. I'm talking about Karn and O'Hurley. Do they still pull good ratings? Because I saw a 4pm or 4:30pm ET airing in the 200K's.

EDIT: I did see a couple of Saturday airings in the 400K's.

[gsguy12]

The Friday night 25k Pyramid marathon was a disappointment, to say the least.

$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 7:00PM- 7:30PM 0.2 196
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 7:30PM- 8:00PM 0.1 148
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 8:00PM- 8:30PM 0.2 204
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 8:30PM- 9:00PM 0.2 208
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 9:00PM- 9:30PM 0.2 230
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 9:30PM-10:00PM 0.2 195
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 10:00PM-10:30PM 0.1 155
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 10:30PM-11:00PM 0.1 123
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 11:00PM-11:30PM 0.1 154
$25,000 PYRAMID Fri 11:30PM-12:00AM 0.1 190

Only a few airings over 200k viewers, and the rest under that. I like to see the older shows in primetime, but lets be fair, these are not good numbers. Maybe they could try like Super Password one week if Pyramid doesn't do better for primetime.

At least we can see why they removed 5th Grader from Weekdays at 5pm:

ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER Mon 5:00PM- 6:00PM 0.1 180
ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER Tue 5:00PM- 6:00PM 0.2 237
ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER Wed 5:00PM- 6:00PM 0.1 146
ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER Thu 5:00PM- 6:00PM 0.2 277
ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER Fri 5:00PM- 6:00PM 0.1 213

Mostly poor ratings, the only decent one was Thursday. Family Feud should do better.

[phimat37]

^ I was going to say, Friday evenings have become a disappointment since The $25,000 Pyramid came back to Friday's. I am just so disappointed. I wish GSN would try some other classics in there because this is disappointing. I can't believe it, myself.

The block schedules seem to be bombing GSN. Get a grip.

[xibit765]

Still not as bad as that Sat night 11pm Dancing with the Stars, pulling in a magnificent 76k viewers. Probably barely above a 0.0 rating. Stick 5th grader or Harvey Feud in that spot and it would get 300-400k viewers I'm sure.

I wonder why 25k pyramid did so poorly. Could just be a fluke. But it never really lights up the ratings with 300k+ viewers. I definitely think PW Plus or Super PW would get better ratings Fri night, just because they haven't been seen much over the last few years.

The block scheduling did great for Harvey Feud Wed. 5 of the top 11 shows were from that block. 5th grader Sunday did great as usual too. It's not really the block scheduling that drives the ratings down, it's the shows in the blocks. They're all shows that have been abused and shown over and over and people are tired of them. That's probably why 5th grader and Harvey do well. They're newish to GSN.

[gsguy12]

I wonder why 25k pyramid did so poorly. Could just be a fluke. But it never really lights up the ratings with 300k+ viewers. I definitely think PW Plus or Super PW would get better ratings Fri night, just because they haven't been seen much over the last few years.

I agree with you. I think maybe 25k Pyramid will do better when the next ratings report comes out. It always seems to do well one week, then another week, not as great. But as you said, a Password Plus or Super Password marathon for Friday nights may not be a bad choice to make.

One other thing, in that other thread that talks about GSN perhaps getting "New" 25k Pyramid shows starting May 7, I really don't think that would boost the ratings too much. I mean, I doubt fresh Pyramid shows would do horrible, but lets face it, the average viewers won't be able to tell much of a difference between the different seasons. Its the same game.

So who knows. I think that some people should still be grateful they are even airing older shows in primetime. I remember on the old boards how many posts there used to be about, "why doesn't GSN air classics in primetime"? Well, they are now and people should be glad they are doing that.

[pzimm7778]

I agree with you. I think maybe 25k Pyramid will do better when the next ratings report comes out. It always seems to do well one week, then another week, not as great. But as you said, a Password Plus or Super Password marathon for Friday nights may not be a bad choice to make.

One other thing, in that other thread that talks about GSN perhaps getting "New" 25k Pyramid shows starting May 7, I really don't think that would boost the ratings too much. I mean, I doubt fresh Pyramid shows would do horrible, but lets face it, the average viewers won't be able to tell much of a difference between the different seasons. Its the same game.

So who knows. I think that some people should still be grateful they are even airing older shows in primetime. I remember on the old boards how many posts there used to be about, "why doesn't GSN air classics in primetime"? Well, they are now and people should be glad they are doing that.

A better idea altogether would be a show they are not airing already in that timeslot.

[Lingofan97]

Daytime averages (Highest to lowest)
4:30pm Family Feud: 295K
3:00pm Whammy: 252K
4:00pm Family Feud: 252K
3:30pm Chain Reaction: 245K
10:30am $25,000 Pyramid: 237K
2:00pm Catch 21: 217K
2:30pm Lingo: 215K
5:00pm 5th Grader: 211K
11:30am Match Game: 211K
11:00am Super Password: 201K
10:00am Password Plus: 194K
12:30pm Lingo: 190K
12:00pm Lingo: 185K
8:30am Match Game: 177K
1:00pm Deal or No Deal: 176K
9:30am Family Feud: 152K
8:00am Match Game: 130K
9:00am Family Feud: 122K

Block averages
Monday Family Feud: 231K (Karn: 220K O'Hurley: 239K)
Tuesday The Newlywed Game: 209K
Wednesday Family Feud (Harvey): 365K (first runs: 336K)
Thursday Deal or No Deal: 243K
Friday $25,000 Pyramid: 180K
Saturday Dancing with the Stars: 140K
Sunday 5th Grader: 401K

Sherri/Jerry new episode views
Monday: 205K, 293K
Tuesday: 233K, 257K

Wednesday: 226K, 327K
Thursday: 260K, 361K

Fri 6pm: 218K
Fri 6:30pm: 267K

[Lingofan97]

Harvey Feud not exactly pulling the kind of numbers I imagined but still alright. Jeopardy at 9AM weekends needs to go.

Steve Harvey's Feud would do better if it wasn't for the block scheduling. If it was aired 5 nights a week with new episodes at 8 and 8:30pm, we would always see 450-500K ratings for the most part. Jeopardy! at 9am sometimes pulls good numbers at 9am (good meaning 150K-200K), but this week did poorly.

Family Feud (Harvey) may be good on Wednesdays but I can't help but notice, other versions are getting 200K when they used to get 400K. I'm talking about Karn and O'Hurley. Do they still pull good ratings? Because I saw a 4pm or 4:30pm ET airing in the 200K's.

EDIT: I did see a couple of Saturday airings in the 400K's.

Monday night for Karn/O'Hurley have been pulling out weak. Otherwise, they are still both big winners. I'll take Karn for example since he airs more. Karn's slots at 4 and 4:30pm weekdays usually pull 275-350K, which is good for daytime. The block marathons are just ruining there ratings.

The Friday night 25k Pyramid marathon was a disappointment, to say the least.

I'm surprised too, but numbers might pick up Friday, April 20th. In general, I say drop the block scheduling. But for now, if GSN decides to keep the block scheduling, then Password Plus and Super Password from 7-Midnight would pull in better ratings. Classics can prove well on GSN, but not in five hour blocks.

Still not as bad as that Sat night 11pm Dancing with the Stars, pulling in a magnificent 76k viewers. Probably barely above a 0.0 rating. Stick 5th grader or Harvey Feud in that spot and it would get 300-400k viewers I'm sure.

I'm glad Dancing with the Stars is gone. Below 100K views after midnight for any show should get pulled off, and under 200K during prime time should get pulled off. That was an awful week for DWTS.

[Playmaniac001]

More of the usual for GSN ratings. It's a shame that Friday night didn't do so hot. I'm curious how this past Friday did since GSN advertised it as a tribute for Dick Clark's passing.

This caught my eye:
112 DEAL OR NO DEAL Sun 12:00AM-1:00AM - 205,000
38 1 VS. 100 Sun 1:00AM-2:00AM - 279,000
Big jump at 1AM for an episode that's probably aired over a dozen times now. It's a shame that GSN went cheap with their version of 1 vs 100. It's obvious there is a still a fan base.

[Lingofan97]

This caught my eye:
112 DEAL OR NO DEAL Sun 12:00AM-1:00AM - 205,000
38 1 VS. 100 Sun 1:00AM-2:00AM - 279,000
Big jump at 1AM for an episode that's probably aired over a dozen times now. It's a shame that GSN went cheap with their version of 1 vs 100. It's obvious there is a still a fan base.

I saw that too. And the 12PM Sunday 1 vs. 100 saw about 205,000 viewers I think. If GSN's 1 vs. 100 had a top prize of $100,000, and asked another question or two per episode (so the game would move faster), we'd be seeing a hit for GSN

[SpeedAndStrategy]

I saw that too. And the 12PM Sunday 1 vs. 100 saw about 205,000 viewers I think. If GSN's 1 vs. 100 had a top prize of $100,000, and asked another question or two per episode (so the game would move faster), we'd be seeing a hit for GSN

I agree, and a more charismatic host would also be a big help.

I'm surprised too, but numbers might pick up Friday, April 20th. In general, I say drop the block scheduling. But for now, if GSN decides to keep the block scheduling, then Password Plus and Super Password from 7-Midnight would pull in better ratings. Classics can prove well on GSN, but not in five hour blocks.

The two versions of Password haven't set the daytime ratings on fire (though SP has improved the "death hour" ratings a little). I hate to say it, but I think classics on Friday evenings just aren't working. They work better in daytime and late nights. I do agree that there may be a temporary surge in Pyramid ratings due to Dick Clark's unfortunate passing. But once that interest wears off, it will probably be time to throw in the towel on Flashback Fridays, if not on the block scheduling in general.

As a side note, after seeing the last two weeks of ratings, I think GSN made a mistake in not renewing Card Sharks, or at least the Perry version. They should kept Perry where he was at 10 AM, and put Password Plus somewhere else in the morning lineup (maybe in the 9 AM hour, or at 11:30 after SP). I'll reiterate that if they had to drop a classic, Dawson would have been a better choice.

[Lingofan97]

More observations about ratings...

At least we can see why they removed 5th Grader from Weekdays at 5pm:

5th Grader did badly weekdays at 5pm because they were showing episodes that were already cycled through that time of day in January in February in the Friday afternoon slot. If they aired the 2007-08 or 2008-09 season episodes that I suggest and not the 2007 season, then we would have seen better numbers.

This week's high ratings surprises:
4:30pm Family Feud: 295K
3:00pm Whammy: 252K
3:30pm Chain Reaction: 245K
10:30am $25,000 Pyramid: 237K
2:30pm Lingo: 215K
11:30am Match Game: 211K

*Family Feud usually gets its highest numbers around there, but those were some of the top ratings of the week
*Four of these slots got above or near 300K ratings. That's fantastic for Whammy! which is a ten-year old GSN original
*Chain Reaction still shows its strong numbers
*After being worn down time, the new Lingo, $25,000 Pyramid and Match Game are getting strong numbers still. Lingo (Engvall) airs 12 times a week for the past three months with only 40 episodes. The $25,000 Pyramid numbers at 10:30am are better than its Friday night block.

This weeks low ratings surprises:
5:00pm 5th Grader: 211K
11:00am Super Password: 201K
10:00am Password Plus: 194K
12:30pm Lingo: 190K
12:00pm Lingo: 185K
9:00am Family Feud: 122K

*5th Grader of course; but once again those were third-run episodes since November
*Super Password and Password Plus I'm excited to see back, but I'm surprised all of there numbers aren't all above 200K. Maybe they would do better back to back in the future.
*Lingo (Woolery) needs a better/later time slot. Noon is too early and it's been bombing there.
*GSN should acquire a new season Dawson Feud before they acquire a new season of Match Game or even $25,000 Pyramid (but that looks like it's happening). Because below 100K ratings in one slot are just poor.

[Lingofan97]

The two versions of Password haven't set the daytime ratings on fire (though SP has improved the "death hour" ratings a little). I hate to say it, but I think classics on Friday evenings just aren't working. They work better in daytime and late nights. I do agree that there may be a temporary surge in Pyramid ratings due to Dick Clark's unfortunate passing. But once that interest wears off, it will probably be time to throw in the towel on Flashback Fridays, if not on the block scheduling in general.

As a side note, after seeing the last two weeks of ratings, I think GSN made a mistake in not renewing Card Sharks, or at least the Perry version. They should kept Perry where he was at 10 AM, and put Password Plus somewhere else in the morning lineup (maybe in the 9 AM hour, or at 11:30 after SP). I'll reiterate that if they had to drop a classic, Dawson would have been a better choice.

1. When Fridays consisted of Match Game, $25,000 Pyramid, Card Sharks, Dawson and $100,000 Pyramid, the night did better when there was more than one show in one night. Even though Super Password and Password Plus are close to the same show, it could boost those upper 100K ratings to lower to mid 200K's at least.

2. Not renewing Card Sharks was an error on GSN's part. I still don't think a contract expired. The whole 10am-Noon block does well enough. Card Sharks (Perry) at 9:30am would do better in ratings since Karn doesn't belong in the mornings, and Match Game still does well at 11:30am (and even though Dawson's doing poor, he should stay for now. A renewal should be coming soon)