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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbird6 View Post
    Do/Did the new seasons of both series premiere at the same time usually?
    The Newlywed Game and Baggage have usually appeared at different times of they year.

    Also, GSN never posted that corporate post for the Dancing with the Stars marathon. That's good news I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lingofan97 View Post
    The Newlywed Game and Baggage have usually appeared at different times of they year.
    They likely wouldn't mention it and The Newlywed Game in the same "what's coming up" article, if that's the case. I don't know, it could be canceled for all I know. I know Lingo's at least on hiatus, otherwise the second season would've premiered by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbird6 View Post
    They likely wouldn't mention it and The Newlywed Game in the same "what's coming up" article, if that's the case. I don't know, it could be canceled for all I know. I know Lingo's at least on hiatus, otherwise the second season would've premiered by now.
    On GSN's old administration...

    The Newlywed Game and Baggage wouldn't have gone on hiatus from September-March. The Newlywed Game would have a sixth season airing now, and Baggage would possibly have a fourth season now. And, they would have always stayed in the 6 and 6:30pm time slot.

    Catch 21 and Lingo would have continued to go on to new seasons, and none of this 'Bible' and Cooking game shows would be airing.


    The future of GSN is going to be The Newlywed Game and The Pyramid when it comes to new originals. Otherwise, I can't see American Bible Challenge being a long term original.

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    Pyramid is CHEAP???

    Family Feud gives away no more than $ 20,000 daily, and more often than not gives out less than $ 1,000.

    So I guess they must be Scrooge in your mind huh.....
    Down With Cablevision!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phgellis View Post
    Pyramid is CHEAP???
    Need we remember that back in "the day", Bob Stewart wasn't exactly known for throwing money around either (and yet Pyramid still lasted 7 years in it's original run).

    From my perspective, the gameplay is way more important then "mo'money"

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    What's My Line lasted 30 years with a top prize of fifty bucks...
    Down With Cablevision!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phgellis View Post
    What's My Line lasted 30 years with a top prize of fifty bucks...
    You make excellent points when you say the top prize isn't as important as the gameplay. The viewing audience got spoiled by the million-dollar prize shows when, more often than not, they gave away far smaller amounts. If the show looks and plays great, that's the key.

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    Cheap?

    No.

    In fact, it was just as better when game shows offered $5,000 or $10,000. That's why I like GSN's shows. $100,000 isn't even bad. GSN is a small network, not like these big shots that offer $1,000,000, sometimes $10,000,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phimat37 View Post
    In fact, it was just as better when game shows offered $5,000 or $10,000. That's why I like GSN's shows. $100,000 isn't even bad. GSN is a small network, not like these big shots that offer $1,000,000, sometimes $10,000,000.
    The only shows that really deserved those Million Dollar top prizes on major networks were Who Wants to be a Millionaire? and 1 vs 100. Two very hard games, and have had very few winners. The $10,000,000 on Power of 10 was too much, and even the $1,000,000 on Million Dollar Password and Deal or No Deal was over the top. I actually found Deal or No Deal better in syndication, with 22 suitcases and a half million top prize. The DOND gameplay was also quicker then.

    GSN's originals, especially 5 years ago were on the low side when it came to budget. Chain Reaction only had a top prize of $5,000, plus the money from earlier in the game which would total about $7,000 at the end split between three people. That's cheap. Chain Reaction should have given away $25,000, but maybe with a different end round. Camouflage was also cheap too. And Catch 21 could have had a top prize of $50,000 instead of $25,000, and then instead of $5,000 and $1,000 in the bonus round, possibly $10,000 and $5,000 instead.

    Come on, The Pyramid is not cheap at all

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    Well, of course Millionaire. Why call it Millionaire if it didn't offer $1,000,000? That was the very first game show in America to offer $1,000,000 If I recall. And 1 vs. 100, sure that was made to be a Million Dollar game show I think. Million Dollar Password and Deal or No Deal also deserved to be $1,000,000 game shows. Those were made to be million dollar game shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phimat37 View Post
    Well, of course Millionaire. Why call it Millionaire if it didn't offer $1,000,000? That was the very first game show in America to offer $1,000,000 If I recall. And 1 vs. 100, sure that was made to be a Million Dollar game show I think. Million Dollar Password and Deal or No Deal also deserved to be $1,000,000 game shows. Those were made to be million dollar game shows.
    Trying to think what Million Dollar Password's name should have been without a $1,000,000 top prize. Maybe just "Password" but Million Dollar Password was a good name. It should have went into syndication with a top prize of say...$250,000. And then the bonus round should have went like this.

    $250,000
    $100,000
    $50,000
    $20,000 (safe level)
    $10,000

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    I have to say that at first glance, The $10K/$15K/$20K/$25K Pyramid does seem to be on the lower end of Originals. I mean, Russian Roulette was giving away $10,000 for the first half of it's bonus round 10 years ago. So was Cram. Catch 21 offered $25,000 for every bonus round a couple years ago, not just some of them. Also, the bonus prizes are gone, replaced by a flat $500 for a perfect 7, which makes me think that it'll be a fairly rare occurrence. And if that is a fairly rare occurrence, that means most bonus rounds will be for either $10,000 or $15,000, which isn't terribly impressive, if I'm honest.

    I do agree that budget likely killed nuLingo, but it threw stupid money at stupid people, so I don't blame those that didn't watch. If a team wins $1500 in the main game, and then solve one word in Bonus Lingo, they get another $1500? Even with the low-quality players they had, that adds up quickly.

    What gets me is that Pyramid was offering a $10,000 prize when the show debuted in 1973. That was the hook of the show: it was the first game show after the low stakes late-50s and 60s to offer a big cash prize. Adjusted for inflation, that's $51,760 in 2012 dollars. If anything it should be $20,000 for the first try $50,000 if someone gets there twice in a day.

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    The $500 is better than the 7/11 and the 6-day vacation to wherever like they had on Clark's version. The 7/11 did give out more money, but only on one category out of 6. It was just luck hitting the 7/11, but it was also skill getting all 7 for $1,100. This "$500" gives anyone a chance to win money outside of the Winners' Circle just by skill, even though game shows are about luck too.

    Then for a vacation package on GSN's The Pyramid would be a little too much $$$ for GSN, even though they give out Second Honeymoons on every episode of The Newlywed Game. Let's leave the vacation packages to The Newlywed Game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phgellis View Post
    Pyramid is CHEAP???

    Family Feud gives away no more than $ 20,000 daily, and more often than not gives out less than $ 1,000.

    So I guess they must be Scrooge in your mind huh.....
    I'm just comparing it to other GSN originals that were over-budget.

    Lingo didn't need a $100,000 top prize. American Bible Challenge doesn't need a $250,000 top prize.

    Why has/is GSN created/creating lousy game shows with high-dollar prizes, but then creating good game shows with low-dollar prizes?

    That is the question I want answered. It just seems unfair to me, that a classic game show such as Pyramid would only give out around $6,000 per episode on average, when Lingo and Bible are giving out way more per episode, even though they didn't need to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DialgaChampion View Post
    Lingo didn't need a $100,000 top prize. American Bible Challenge doesn't need a $250,000 top prize.
    I remember saying this about a little more than a year ago. Lingo and 1 vs 100's top prizes should have been reversed. 1 vs 100 should have had a $100,000 top prize, and Lingo should have been $50,000, even though it's split between two people

    And GSN has had many good game shows with low prizes, the first two that come to mind are Lingo (Woolery) around 2002 and 2003, and then Chain Reaction which was $5K between three people

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